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[Open Discussion] Let's go P2P?
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Hi all, been awhile since i spouting nonsense but here we go. we've been discussing this idea in discord but those fuckers are doing nothing but laugh at the forum (fuck you)

As you can see, i have about 370 threads by now, and it's mostly downloadable in DLC subforum.
It really makes me want to cry because managing those stuff aren't exactly easy, and i've been playing catch with dmca trolls from time to time. It's not so easy to re-upload whole 350+ GB of stuff to somewhere else, and regenerate share links from that folders. And i can't find any file hosting which allow me to upload that much,with rclone support, or API support FOR FREE. yea i'm not gonna spend a dime on file hosting because it's all just gonna be waste if those copyright bot back to scraping again. yes i tried it, i tried to use paid MEGA.nz and it's gone less than a year.

at the moment mega.nz announced that they will terminate account that has few login activities, few download activities, or hurr try our paid plan durr!! i said fuck it. you probably will get to my post when i still seethe about it here if you dig deep enough.

and then i moved to another alternate, i uses my onedrive account (which is an enterprise account, linked to my employer). at first it went really fine. IT'S REALLY FINE. until some dumbfuk on our company installed cracked app because they're too lazy to notify the IT admins, teehee oopsie whoopsie OwO we got caught by ransomware!
It wasn't really funny because everyone's account got suspended by instant. and after following the account usage audit, i got caught in trouble because i generate too much links.
The content is fine, anime is fine, i just got really bad warning for generating way too much link for public. till now mine still suspended though, no i don't get fired dw
Once it's back i dare to use my onedrive again (because we could met in agreement, public link is fine but it must be less than 30 days). setting 29days expiry is easy enough, hell yea who wouldn't an easy download link?

now back to the main problem, keeping the Ongoing link alone is plenty of work because for some reason i tend to take 6-7 titles at once during airing season, those beggar doesn't help at all and asking for more?!! (gee, color me pink surprised). and then i have to take requests for completed titles, ovas, movies, boom suddenly you have 370 threads count in total.. wut???

i got really fed up with changing download links, and it's really grinds my gears when i have to put my downloader at malvertising risks like i've been doing lately (using uptobox, because it's dead easy to bulk url upload and same goes for mirror creator). there are people that tell me i shouldn't give a fuck whether i'll put every single of you on risk because you beans supposed to learn how to protecc yourself using dns sink / umatrix /whatever. but personally i can't accept that idea, it just felt wrong tho, just because i knew more that doesn't give me an excuse to be a dick

and then i stroll around looking for alternative, i tried IPFS because i think it's really great, hey you can just use your web browser to download them, and let the server owner dealing with pain in the ass technical problem.
did it worked out? well, yes. but actually, no. we can put files to online, connected to 10k+ of other nodes, and then the downloader could succ the files at 2MBps speed. what a fucking joke
the actual reason we have to drop it is that they got memory leak problem on their used libraries, caused our half-gig server to drop all of the connections, saturate our network ports, and then we got suspended by the host.
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IPFS isn't a good idea to put for use YET.

and then i got offered to upload them to torrent sites, like anidex or nyaa. but i said no, i wanted more privacy but not as autistic as private torrents. if you want to put animegrimoire stuff on torrent, yea do that on your own. i won't help seeding because i don't want to, and it'll add my job to upload a torrent files to those site. i can assure you i'm the most lazyass person in this forum
The Shit:

so i asked what kind of sorcery is that allow me to share files to various devices like:
x86 platform: Yo' granny mama PC
x86_64 platform: usually what used around now, hurrrr ayymd vs intel!!
ARM platform: android phones, raspberry pis, allmighty chinese clone overlord orange pi, banana pi, your smartv, rice cooker, coffe maker (y gonna download files on those?)
mac platform: alright this is wrong, they're either x86_64 or arm, just with a bit "special care"

with minimal hassle, the dmca bots won't easily download it (yes, the one who keeps taking down shit are actually just a bot), and it's easy to follow. the answer was Syncthing.

So in summary, i installed syncthing on my fedora server, and you installed syncthing in your windows laptop (for example)

1. you install syncthing, and you give your Syncthing ID to me
2. me, an intellectual: record your ID
3. me, added your syncthing ID to my Syncthing server as frens (were they called 'friends'? or 'peers'? not sure)
4. me, start sharing myfolders to you.

The folder will looks like this, so you can selectively pick which anime are you interested on

/Ongoing
/Ongoing/Azur Lane/
/Ongoing/PSO2 - Episode Oracle/
/Ongoing/Honzuki no Gekokujou/
/Other
/Other/Trinity Seven - da moovie
/Other/NEKOPARA OVA/
/Other/The Manga Guides/
/Completed
/Completed/Kabaneri in Ayylmao Fortress
/Completed/Attack on Titan S3
/Request
/Request/Something uhhhh/


5. you, an intellectual: select which shit are you interested on

here's how to pick it. If you interested only on my Ongoing season, you can put a checkmark on "/Ongoing" folder and ignore the rest. this way, you'll be automatically downloading my ongoing stuff.
BUT if you only wanted the Azur Lane, you only put a checkmark on Azur Lane folder and ignore the "/Ongoing". so you'll specifically only download Azur Lane folder.

the big plus in this method is that you'll get the file as soon as i put it on my server, without waiting me uploading them to file cloud server. YES i am so lazy that i ended procastinating like a day before i bumping my thread, even if the files already uploaded lol.

What's your thought sharing files this way? sure it need effort in first time setting it up on first time, but i'm confident that i'm able to help setting them up regardless of your devices / platform.

i'm willing to try this out if there's 3 or 4 active downloader willing to try this. looks stupid but who cares if it's actually works. you get faster access than waiting me to reupload stuff somewhere else



only one of my main concern: i only have like 120GB ish spare space for this syncthing. so i'll manage it like this:

1. All of ongoing season is available in syncthing. After airing ends, it'll still available until next 30 days
2. All of movie/ova/completed title that encoded DURING ongoing season will available until next 30 days after ongoing stuff finished airing
3. I'll make up-to-date file list that currently available in syncthing
4. If you missing out, just ask the anime name and i'll put it back in "/Request" folder for next 30 days

This way, i can workaround the limited space and everyone happy.


Q: Where'd you get this idea?
A: on zeronet, some hongkong protester are sharing files this way and the can get away with it
Q: Holyshit
A: you're welcome


i really want your feedback on this. it's also feels so lonely that i've been years in here but people barely talked to me. i'm doing this everything for you but y tho you just ignoring me
i'm already at my new low that random user calling me a huge flaming faggot is considered as decent communication. i don't know what to do anymore, i literally almost get killed for keep uploading stuff here to make the forum alive, and keep getting told to stop encoding shit. if after everything that i done and still got no response, i really reconsider to take my pills and plug my life support off. 

i got told to stop because i uses my employer's resources. can't really do much when your company already passed the paper because i got no decent communication isn't it. at least, it's been a good run. thank you for reading my rant

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#2
There are some immediate concern:
  1. Not everyone can use p2p software (sometimes the ISP blocked it).
  2. Everyone likes "a similar experience" to download. Sometimes some people likes to use file sharing because it was "simpler". If you want to go p2p, other encoder needs to offer the same service, because it might become expected, which bring me to another point.
  3. It alienates some encoder who did not have resource to go p2p. Some people have limited bandwidth available for them (quota based internet?)
I want to offer some way out of this:
  1. Maybe we did not have to maintain older titles from 5 years ago. I propose that we offer the anime availability for a limited time. (?)
but IDK, it just my 2 cents.
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this is really hard to discuss because there's too much political power behind Legendary Aurora's acc. i recommend to cast this aside first before we discuss as whole in animegrimoire. yes you guys are having stronger standing than animegrimoire itself, a real bitter fact. I also yet to notice that this forum specifically restrict that anything you upload will be forum's property (something like basic gpl license?). 

please ignore my words regarding file ownership, i'm sure it'll just cause a major disaster regardless any decision you take, just keep it as-is 

and then..

1. for now, IMO syncthing is okay as long as it's only a side method. and you still keep regular link in the thread (even if it's late or whatever). from my comprehension, you're just sick because ongoing stuff get shot down. It's harder to use, i doubt anyone who could afford it is actually an animegrimoire downloader though. they'll bee yeehaaw hoarding 1080p bd instead. this is the first downside.

2. IPFS. this is the most bright solution BUT requires tons of work because you going to need to contribute to their upstream, and help fixing go libraries that keep creating memory leak. YOU think it might be a good case if L/Aurora got power breakdown in their internal to fix my first (1) point, but if it's happen, it'll be near impossible to contribute in IPFS project. you gonna need that power, if that ever happens; you're not only building for animegrimoire, but you'll contributing in IPFS project too.


(27 November 2019, 01:35 PM)Lynx Wrote: (...)
  1. Maybe we did not have to maintain older titles from 5 years ago. I propose that we offer the anime availability for a limited time. (?)


sorry to say but i agree with this. L/Aurora been crying because there's lack of user interaction, this will helps.
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forgot to add, IPFS is great as it's downloadable from web browser, it feels like direct download link. or downloading from one drive but less 2 clock. normie won't have problem accessing it

also, let's be honest here. Nothing is free, that same goes for all of anime that you downloaded, someone's gonna pay the bill. it's pure cpu power that being used, not exactly cheap you know.

now, Animegrimoire, the price that you have to pay are just as simple bumping the thread to ask for reupload and be patient.
the thread is there just to put a notice that the files are available in archive

you already spared from malvertising for years in hundreds of anime title (yes, mirrorcreator is cancer and so on for majority of file clouds because they can't just give service for free too). once you have someone who cares for perma download link, but i see no words of gratitude. so i guess that's it, you cause your own downfall. now you better learn how to protect your butt from those site with ton of ads, or you could just being ignorant as always, it's your choice.

we're at the point when L/Aurora is start to ask whether their effort is worth it, their stuff is actually downloaded and people enjoy it while all what they got is zero feedback and the forum feels like echo chamber.
 
L/Aurora is here because someone paying for it, and this fundraiser is asking L/Aurora to observe social activity in the forum. it's simple, but everything got fed into machine learning algorithm. if the forum is dead, they'll too

look at those fucks i've given because i just want to enjoy my anime. consider you have been warned
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(27 November 2019, 01:35 PM)Lynx Wrote: There are some immediate concern:
  1. Not everyone can use p2p software (sometimes the ISP blocked it).
  2. Everyone likes "a similar experience" to download. Sometimes some people likes to use file sharing because it was "simpler". If you want to go p2p, other encoder needs to offer the same service, because it might become expected, which bring me to another point.
  3. It alienates some encoder who did not have resource to go p2p. Some people have limited bandwidth available for them (quota based internet?)

i'd answer this with this:

(27 November 2019, 02:34 PM)Internet Explorer Wrote: 1. for now, IMO syncthing is okay as long as it's only a side method. and you still keep regular link in the thread (even if it's late or whatever). from my comprehension, you're just sick because ongoing stuff get shot down. It's harder to use, i doubt anyone who could afford it is actually an animegrimoire downloader though. they'll bee yeehaaw hoarding 1080p bd instead. this is the first downside.

yes, i'm asking it as side channel / alternate because i did mention i'll still upload them somewhere else.
I'm still looking more feedback though, is it really that hard to access files using syncthing?

(27 November 2019, 02:34 PM)Internet Explorer Wrote: this is really hard to discuss because there's too much political power behind Legendary Aurora's acc. i recommend to cast this aside first before we discuss as whole in animegrimoire. yes you guys are having stronger standing than animegrimoire itself, a real bitter fact. I also yet to notice that this forum specifically restrict that anything you upload will be forum's property (something like basic gpl license?).

please ignore my words regarding file ownership, i'm sure it'll just cause a major disaster regardless any decision you take, just keep it as-is

yup, it's been hurting my neck lately, really not a easy stuff to deal with. also for kind of license i agree to leave it as is because some retards will making fuss over it. we can do just fine so it's the best to leave it as-is

(27 November 2019, 02:34 PM)Internet Explorer Wrote: 2. IPFS. this is the most bright solution BUT requires tons of work because you going to need to contribute to their upstream, and help fixing go libraries that keep creating memory leak. YOU think it might be a good case if L/Aurora got power breakdown in their internal to fix my first (1) point, but if it's happen, it'll be near impossible to contribute in IPFS project. you gonna need that power, if that ever happens; you're not only building for animegrimoire, but you'll contributing in IPFS project too.

i've been contributing in IPFS both upstream codes and donation. yes i want to see IPFS/IPNS become a decent stuff, while this is difficult to use from uploader side, it's easy to download from leecher's side. won't be usable anytime soon though, looking at the pace probably it'll be stable in five years

(27 November 2019, 01:35 PM)Lynx Wrote: I want to offer some way out of this:
  1. Maybe we did not have to maintain older titles from 5 years ago. I propose that we offer the anime availability for a limited time. (?)

i already thought of this, as you can see in my post regarding keeping download link alive until 29days after it's completed, or 29days after initial upload. i'm using my 29days as my timed out because i'm sure the files are still there, only the link is expired. for uploader in general, probably the best timed out is about 3 month if you look at mega's new policy (i think you got a mail regarding this new policy)

(27 November 2019, 02:48 PM)Internet Explorer Wrote: L/Aurora is here because someone paying for it, and this fundraiser is asking L/Aurora to observe social activity in the forum. it's simple, but everything got fed into machine learning algorithm. if the forum is dead, they'll too

thanks for describing my life in a nutshell

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Quote:and then i moved to another alternate, i uses my onedrive account (which is an enterprise account, linked to my employer). at first it went really fine. IT'S REALLY FINE. until some dumbfuk on our company installed cracked app because they're too lazy to notify the IT admins, teehee oopsie whoopsie OwO we got caught by ransomware!
whew, i thought only where i work we got this kind of dumbass.

sorry Aurora, i'm so useless, and cant provide alternatives..

my internet is damn bugdet (quota), but i waste them like there is no tomorrow, so for some time in the past, i put up magnet links..
and let my laptop wife runs all night to seed.
guess nobody uses that...
i only manage to seed ReZero HS Releases up to 9000-ish seed ratio.
guess how many monies i throw at it, for no benefit.
and nobody bites my release magnet links.. sadnoises

i wanted to setup my own seedbox, but paypal killed my account. i was a dumbfuk that created the account when i was still in high school.
and my bank account, personal id is stuck on that account.

tbh, i will go with what @Lynx decides..
if we go with syncthing, do let us know, what to do,
how to do.

and i should get a job soon... so i could fund my wife to recode again.
but she easily overheated nowadays..
against all odd i had inheritance trouble in the horizon, its going to be a shitstorm soon,
hence i need to move to my homecity.
i'm a such useless shit.


sorry for subjecting your workplace, your money on this..
we started this forum as "contributor" oriented,
if nobody contribute (be it computation power, bandwith, storage) and just leech, lives going to be hard.. Sad
we (i at least, hoped, AG) run with the power and friendship..... yeah, that kind of bs..
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